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 Texas24 (original poster new member #85352) posted at 9:06 PM on Sunday, October 20th, 2024

What is the best way to deal with a BS telling you that you "don't love them because you wouldn't have done what you did?" Or saying "Why do you want to be with me when you don't respect me?" What are some good phrases to use that help reassure, calm and support?

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SacredSoul33 ( member #83038) posted at 10:05 PM on Sunday, October 20th, 2024

"I’m sorry" is always a good choice.

"I’m sorry. I know my actions were not loving."

I’m sorry. I didn’t respect myself either or I wouldn’t have done this to myself, or to you."

I highly recommend The Four Agreements, especially the second one: Don’t take anything personally. It really helped me in the BS role to know that what my H did was never about me.

Remove the "I want you to like me" sticker from your forehead and place it on the mirror, where it belongs. ~ Susan Jeffers

Your nervous system will always choose a familiar hell over an unfamiliar heaven.

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Tinytim1980 ( member #80504) posted at 11:20 PM on Sunday, October 20th, 2024

See this is where I've struggled before, I would argue till blue in the face that I loved her and because XYZ happened over the years but I was wrong.

It's a hard pill to swallow but maybe consider you didnt... maybe you loved what your BS gave you and loved that and how that made you feel but you never actually loved her in the way that she feels love or how normal people feel it (as a ws we arent exactly normal).

As I say it's a hard pill to swallow but maybe along with an apology that acceptance is maybe all your bs needs... that being said I could be wrong!

And to your original question be authentic and genuine rather than try finding phrases that may work

[This message edited by Tinytim1980 at 11:37 PM, Sunday, October 20th]

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Bulcy ( member #74034) posted at 4:25 PM on Tuesday, October 22nd, 2024

Hi,

The very basic approach is to apologise (as stated above)

When apologising they need to be authentic and genuine. Certainly it is obvious when our apologies do not come from a place of genuine remorse and empathy. The words are important in that you need to own your infidelity. You need to own the fact that you have hurt your BS. Using terms like "I’m sorry you feel upset" or "I’m sorry if I hurt you" are poor. Neither of these own the fact that you DID hurt them or that it was YOU who inflicted the hurt. "I am sorry that I hurt you" is better. You will need to know what you did to hurt your BS too and apologise for this.

A good book to read is "How to help your spouse heal from your affair" by Linda MacDonald. A short book but useful.

Also worth noting is that there are no magic words. I came on here seeking those. Each individual BS is different and picking a few lines expressed by a WS on here is not going to help (see genuine above) you need to know your BSs needs and attend to those. Don’t just apologise once or twice and expect that to be it either. Apologies may be needed for years to come if and when you BS triggers. You have to evaluate each and every situation and try to react appropriately each time. We get it wrong and we learn. Hopefully this learning will not come too late.

Do not blame your BS when they trigger. The trauma we have inflicted runs deep and the hurt we have cause can and will come to the surface a lot. When this happens treat your partner with empathy. If like me you lack this, then read and learn quickly. We all have it, but we need to drag it from the recesses of our mind where we have hidden it away. Without empathy without living our BSs reality, we flounder. When we do, and we do, avoiding shame spirals and shame is important. Self loathing is still a selfish act, hard as it is, we still need to focus on our BS.

Your BS is hurting. There are going to be questions that you want to avoid, thoughts that will come to you that you will try to suppress there will be work needed by you to try to understand what you did and why you did it. This work hurts like hell, owning our past hurts like hell. There is no chance, however, of saving your relationship or even yourself without starting this process.

It has been a couple of days since you posted this. I imagine you have other questions or responses to what has been posted up to now. With more information from you, there are WS on here further down this line who can offer support and guidance more than I can. I hope you chose to post again.

WH (50's)

Multiple sexual, emotional and online affairs. Financial infidelity and emotional abuse. Physical abuse and intimidation.

D-days 2003, 2017, multiple d-days and TT through 2018 to 2023. 28 years of destructive and health damaging choice

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hikingout ( member #59504) posted at 6:33 PM on Tuesday, October 22nd, 2024

Apologizing is good short term. But you need to figure out the whys and goes of the behaviors.

I don’t think the whys necessarily help the bs, but by understanding why you did these things and working to change those things in a deep way will still be important.

The best apology is changed behavior. And the deeper that you understand yourself the better that you will be able to address his questions and concerns.

In the meantime, what do you think about what he is saying? If the situation was reversed would you feel he loved you? What would you want from him? It’s not to say what you would want is going to be the same but it will help you think about his headspace and perhaps bring empathy to the situation.

I would recommend reading how to help your spouse heal as Lea recommends on the other thread. It’s a fast read and will help you also understand his headspace better. There are also some good articles in the healing library.

7 years of hard work - WS and BS - Reconciled

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hikingout ( member #59504) posted at 6:34 PM on Tuesday, October 22nd, 2024

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