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Reconciliation :
The R Thing -- Nine Years Later

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 Oldwounds (original poster member #54486) posted at 8:36 PM on Thursday, May 22nd, 2025

I wasn't sure I was going to do an update this year.

I previously did the annual update for me, to kind of measure the long, difficult journey through the horror show of infidelity.

I'm not even certain my being healed up helps anyone else, other than the idea that most of us do eventually find a way back to a sense of normalcy. Not normal, normalcy -- normal adjacent.

I generally open with a reminder that I don't care what path anyone here takes, as long as they are able to move forward from the trauma in their own way.

R, D or stuck somewhere in the middle, I just hope everyone gets to the other side of their pain.

As for me, I am grateful SI includes support for people who choose to try and put their M back together.

There was a thread I saw a little bit ago asking if there are any positives from infidelity.

No.

There is nothing positive about the person you love the most turning their backs on you and your relationship. Nothing good about any of it.

However, there are positives in the strength we didn't know we had, the strength to survive and thrive, the willpower to push ahead.

It is more than 'whatever doesn't kill us" stuff -- being betrayed is a life reset button.

I got to wake up at some point and focus on me and figure out I wanted out life, and if I chose to stay, what I needed from any relationship, much less rebuilding an M from the ground up.

No WS necessarily 'deserves' a last chance.

That said, I'll always be glad I offered my wife a last shot, regardless of how things go.

Sometimes, good people make horrible decisions, make horrible choices, and they either learn from those things or they don't.

All I know now is, my wife and I are lovable, flawed humans who keep finding a way to make life better for each other now. I understand how some people prefer to define others by their worst moments. Life and people in general tend to live somewhere in the middle of their best and worst choices. So, I gave my wife some room to grow and be her best self. And I'm a far better partner now as well.

We hit every branch in the mistake tree. My bad choices were different, they didn't include infidelity, but my focus on hanging out with my pals and leaning too hard into alcohol made me less than ideal at times. No, never an excuse for someone to cheat, I'm just saying, I recognized some things I would need to change whether I left the M or stayed.

It's part of the real forgiveness stuff, knowing most of us are capable of being better and doing better.

I would love to say I never think about the A, but yeah, I have some days where it haunts me, I am just able to focus on the now much faster than 5-6 years ago.

I can safely say, I will always hate the A and will never have anything nice to say about our former "family friend" AP.

Otherwise, I'm at peace.

Our M is as strong as it has ever been.

I had a health issue last year. My wife went above and beyond and I'm not only recovered, I'm in the best shape of my life a year later. She helped a lot.

That year of getting better was a reflection of all the hard work we did to rebuild every aspect of our relationship.

I don't care what the odds are, if two people BOTH want the M to heal, it can happen.

It is uphill both ways, but I'm glad we got here.

Married 36+ years, together 41+ years
Two awesome adult sons.
Dday 6/16 4-year LTA Survived.
M Restored
"It is better to conquer our grief than to deceive it." — Seneca

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Webbit ( member #84517) posted at 9:49 AM on Friday, May 23rd, 2025

Oldwounds, thank you for this update 💚

I’m so glad you have found a happy place and continue to thrive.

‘ I understand how some people prefer to define others by their worst moments.’

^^this! It’s easy to do. This is the part for me I struggle with because whenever something happens that I don’t like in our marriage I still always return to the A, regardless of relevance to the issue at hand. I don’t want to be that person.

Webbit

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hikingout ( member #59504) posted at 3:08 PM on Friday, May 23rd, 2025

This is the part for me I struggle with because whenever something happens that I don’t like in our marriage I still always return to the A, regardless of relevance to the issue at hand. I don’t want to be that person

It’s so normal for where you are in your timeline though. It takes a lot of time and intentional effort to build trust back. Your reaction isn’t because you are "that person" it’s because your husband has blown up your trust. That is going to cause you to look for signs whether to trust him or not. He has failed a few times in places that could have been opportunities to build it back.

In time if he continues to work on stepping up, being honest, and being a man who is worthy of a marriage with you, I have no doubt you will be able to move away from this enough to be comfortable. However, certain things in my experience will likely always be amplified because if the affair. It’s just milder, far less frequent, and easier to rebound from in a successful reconciliation.

Some of the difference is also the life lived in between the affair and where one stands later. For example, old wounds talks about how his wife helped him through a health issue. I am not transactional in the way I think about relationships, so I am not saying she did that to make amends for the affair. In fact, because they have a successful R I know in fact it’s because she learned how to love and be loved. But these instances are things that take you further and further from who he was to who he is now, assuming he does the work to make it so.

If your h gets to that point the authenticity of it will be evident to you, and it sort of starts to balance out how you see him as a person again.

Right now, you are in a waiting phase for him to prove himself over an extended period of time. You can only relate who he is through his own recent history. That’s not you being flawed, but I do think you put a lot of pressure on yourself.

I don't care what the odds are, if two people BOTH want the M to heal, it can happen.

It is uphill both ways, but I'm glad we got here.

Amen. So happy for you both. I am sitting here with you and nodding my head in agreement with everything you said.

[This message edited by hikingout at 3:48 PM, Friday, May 23rd]

8 years of hard work - WS and BS - Reconciled

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 Oldwounds (original poster member #54486) posted at 4:22 PM on Friday, May 23rd, 2025

^this! It’s easy to do. This is the part for me I struggle with because whenever something happens that I don’t like in our marriage I still always return to the A, regardless of relevance to the issue at hand. I don’t want to be that person.

Webbit - thanks for the kind words!

I hope your healing is going as well as it can be.

Don’t worry about being that person, you’re already trying to give your WS a chance — kind of up to him to make the most of the opportunity.

I saw an interesting meme today online somewhere that noted, "Unconditional love doesn’t mean unconditional tolerance."

So, give yourself some kindness and some time, as Hikingout wisely observed, to let your WS show you more consistent changes.

Married 36+ years, together 41+ years
Two awesome adult sons.
Dday 6/16 4-year LTA Survived.
M Restored
"It is better to conquer our grief than to deceive it." — Seneca

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 Oldwounds (original poster member #54486) posted at 4:31 PM on Friday, May 23rd, 2025

Hey Hiking -

In fact, because they have a successful R I know in fact it’s because she learned how to love and be loved.

She really has and it has made all the difference in the world. A key aspect of how the relationship is so much better than ever before.

I’m better at it too, and that’s the part where a good IC can help. Any time any of us get betrayed, it is very comfortable hiding behind the big walls we build to protect ourselves after the emotional trauma.

Anyway, I’ve mentioned before my wife has never posted here, but she has read a bunch, especially during the early years after dday, and Hiking, you helped her a bunch with your posts along the way.

Married 36+ years, together 41+ years
Two awesome adult sons.
Dday 6/16 4-year LTA Survived.
M Restored
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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 4:42 PM on Friday, May 23rd, 2025

Thanks for sharing. Here's to a good 10th year and beyond!

Your posts are always helpful, IMO.

fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex apDDay - 12/22/2010Recover'd and R'edYou don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.

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4characters ( member #85657) posted at 6:59 PM on Friday, May 23rd, 2025

@Oldwounds

I gave my wife some room to grow and be her best self.

How did you do this?

I'm in a situation (7 months from DDAY) where I feel like I've done everything to give my wife a chance and she's just not doing much to make me think that she will ever come around. I feel like at some point I'm just going to have to call it quits.

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